Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Shavuot: An all-nighter, standing on one foot

After the Tikkun at our local synagogue--with so many seniors, we rarely run past 11 PM--a few hardy souls headed for the Tikkun at the JCC in Manhattan, where we broke up to follow our own interests. I ended up first in David Kraemer's "Israel as Converts: The Conversion Ritual & Standing at Sinai." The text that he taught showed the rabbis taking two totally different approaches to conversion: Either it consisted of (milah and) t'vilah (circumsion, for a man, and) ritual immersion, making one a member of the Jewish family, or it consisted of a committment to accepting the mitzvot (commandments), as at Sinai, making one a part of the covenant with G-d. As far as I can determine, both seem to be required, though the current conversion controversy seems to pit an emphasis on one against an emphasis on the other.

In passing, (Rabbi?) Kraemer said that Moshe Rabbeinu (Moses our Teacher) did the women a favor by declaring that men couldn't come near women for three days prior to the giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai: He said that there was some concern that both women and men be ritually pure, so that all, male and female alike, could receive the Torah. I told this to a female rabbi of my acquaintance the next night--she didn't buy it. But I like the idea.

The next session I attended was taught by Congregation Ramat Orah Associate Rabbi Moshe Grussgott. He was scheduled to speak about the "cheter m'chirah," the permission/leniency to sell land in the biblically-defined Land of Israel to a non-Jew so that one could continue to farm it during the Shmittah (Sabbatical) Year. At the last minute, though, he decided to speak about the AgriProcessor kosher-meat-processing-plant controversy instead. There was much talk of violations of halachah/Jewish religious law, ranging from "dina m'dina dina" ("the law of the country is the law), which would make it halachically forbidden to violate U.S. immigration laws, to questions of g'neivah (theft) because workers were not being paid adequately and/or on time for their work, to causing a person to sin through deception or the withholding of information (lifnei iver lo titein michshol--in front of a blind person do not put a stumbling block), to the chilul HaShem (desecration of G-d's name) of being involved in one of the largest illegal-immigrant mass arrests in the history of the United States, not to mention the prior allegations of cruelty to animals (tzaar baalei chayim). I'm sure I've forgotten one or two more points.

Concerning the question of whether a boycott of AgriProcessor products would be appropriate, especially prior to a trial, Rabbi Grussgott said that no business has an absolute right to any person's patronage, and that one can simply choose to buy from another business at any time. He did not seem to think it necessary to wait for a verdict.

This point was vehemently disputed two days later by the teenaged son of some members of my Manhattan synagogue, who insisted that to boycott AgriProcessor before a verdict would be to commit an act of lashon ha-ra (malicious gossip). He was also quite adamant that, if the Orthodox Union wished to withdraw its certification of the kashrut of AgriProcessor products, they state quite clearly that they were withdrawing it not because the company's products weren't kosher, but because they did not wish to be associated with a company that conducted itself in a manner that might be deemed unethical. He took a very narrow view of kashrut, with which I disagreed, but ended up in the same place in the long run, which was that a boycott and/or withdrawal of kashrut certification might be appropriate if properly explained and occurring after a guilty verdict.

I'll happily respond to comments when available to do so.

6 Comments:

Blogger rivkayael said...

Rabbi Kraemer was citing a gemara--which makes it unlikely to be pro-feminist apologetic ;P. I will try to dig out the source.

Wed Jun 11, 06:28:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

I should probably explain that I wrote this post over a period of several hours, between anwering phones, completing various assignments, and photocopying ridiculous quantities of documents for ridiculously long amounts of time. I'll get back to you when I can sneak a peak from behind the paper piles.

Oh, hi RivkaYael! I'm looking forward to to seeing that source. Later!

Wed Jun 11, 06:36:00 PM 2008  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

RivkaYael, if you're going to that concert (Chana Rothman, etc.) at the Modern of Jewish Heritage in Battery Park in about, oh, 15 minutes, I'll see you there. Assuming that the ushers don't insist that the audience remain seated, I'll be easy to spot--I'll be the olde birde dancing in the back of the room. :)

Wed Jun 11, 06:43:00 PM 2008  
Blogger rivkayael said...

I wasn't there at the concert...sorry to have missed you.

Rabbi Lookstein at KJ once ruled that matzah and lettuce from a factory that treated its workers badly was not kosher. Arguably, treating people fairly is d'oraita while many of our kashrut regulations are d'rabbanan--those people that accuse boycotters (of Rubashkin's meat or non-union lettuce) of lashon hara would probably boycott the factory if there was the slightest suggestion of buggy lettuce.

One of the most inspirational things I ever heard was at the opening of Yeshivat Hadar. Elie Kaunfer said that "the point of all this learning is to train you to see the image of God, tzelem Elokim, in others and in yourself." So maybe some people are just machmir in that.

And kudos for dancing in this heat!

Thu Jun 12, 02:21:00 PM 2008  
Blogger rivkayael said...

It's B. Shabbat 86a and b. The explanation is that semen makes a woman tamei for 3 days.

Fri Jun 13, 09:21:00 AM 2008  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

This is a first for me--while I've occasionally seen this happen on other blogs, I can't remember ever having seen a comment appear on my own blog while I, myself, was still typing another comment. That accounts for the "Oh, hi!" What a nice surprise, RivkaYael.

"Arguably, treating people fairly is d'oraita while many of our kashrut regulations are d'rabbanan" . . . I vaguely remember that one is not allowed to take a millstone as a loan-repayment guarantee (there's a word for that, but I can't think of it), because one can't grind with only one millstone, so one would be depriving a miller of his (her?) livelihood. It's also prohibited to keep a cloak overnight, because people slept in a cloak. And one is forbidden to delay paying a worker. What else did I miss in the fair-treatment laws/halachot? A lot, undoubtedly.

"those people that accuse boycotters (of Rubashkin's meat or non-union lettuce) of lashon hara would probably boycott the factory if there was the slightest suggestion of buggy lettuce." The young man's point was precisely that he distinguishes between the laws of kashrut and the laws of proper treatment of humans and animals. I understand his point, but, personally, I prefer R. Lookstein's broader interpretation of the laws of kashrut.

""the point of all this learning is to train you to see the image of God, tzelem Elokim, in others and in yourself." Nicely said, R. Kaunfer.

"kudos for dancing in this heat!" It's a lot easier indoors in the air-conditioning, believe me. Before my foot surgery, I used to dance in Central Park occasionally--there's an International folk dancing session there on Sunday afternoons in the summer. Now, I wouldn't dare, because of the stone surface--it's literally hard as rock :)--but lemme tell ya, it was hot as bleep out there!

"It's B. Shabbat 86a and b. The explanation is that semen makes a woman tamei for 3 days." That must be the text to which Kraemer was referring.

Fri Jun 13, 03:07:00 PM 2008  

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